Иосиф Апостат
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a_kleber«Iranian authorities should immediately free pastor Yousef Nadarkhani and drop all charges against him, Human Rights Watch said today. Nadarkhani, who has been charged with apostasy and is in Rasht prison in northern Iran, faces possible execution.
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Court officials told him that he had three opportunities to renounce his faith and embrace Islam. The last of the three court sessions, on September 28, ended with Nadarkhani refusing for the third time to recant. A Supreme Court ruling in June had overturned an earlier death sentence against Nadarkhani for apostasy, and ordered the lower court to conduct additional investigations to determine whether Nadarkhani was willing to renounce his Christian faith to avoid execution.
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Nadarkhani’s lawyer told Human Rights Watch that his client converted to Christianity at the age of 19, and that prior to that he did not consider himself a Muslim or an adherent of any religion.»
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А вы говорите Джордано Бруно или там Юлиан Отступник - древняя история. Ничего не древняя. Айфоны беспомощны и ядерная энергия пособничает муллам. Суверенная демократия же.
Интересно, как долго иранцы будут еще терпеть это мракобесие? Полагаю, это в основном вопрос экономического уровня населения: покуда прослойка очень бедных и очень тупых будет достаточно толстой, режимчег будет держаться. А потом с шумом рухнет. Так что будущее все-таки за айфоном ;-/
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Ibn Warraq (псевдоним) : Why I am not a Muslim (пдф)
Книга весьма гневная и открывается она эпиграфом из Эрнеста Ренана:
«Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels in the Orient, that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him.»
К этому можно прибавить цитату из другого религиозного мыслителя:
«The intellectual - and thereby the rational - foundation of Islam results in the average Muslim having a curious tendency to believe that non-Muslims either know that Islam is the truth and reject it out of pure obstinacy, or else are simply ignorant of it and can be converted by elementary explanations; that anyone should be able to oppose Islam with a good conscience quite exceeds the Muslim's powers of imagination, precisely because Islam coincides in his mind with the irresistible logic of things.»
И чтоб никому обидно не было:
«[Renan] tells of an account by a Spanish theologian who witnessed two sessions conducted by Muslim theologians (mutakallimun) in Baghdad during the Abbasid era:
The first session, which I attended, there were not only Muslims of all sorts, orthodox and heterodox, but also religious deviants, Zoroastrian (guèbres), materialists, atheists, Jews, Christians; in short, there were unbelievers/skeptics (incrédules) of all kinds. Each sect had its own leader, entrusted with the task of defending the opinions they professed ... one of these unbelievers would address the gathering: "we are gathered here to reason, he would say. You all know the rules. You Muslims shall not invoke arguments from your Book [i.e., the Qur'an] or based on the authority of your prophet, because we believe in neither. Each one should limit his arguments to reason." Everyone applauded. — You understand, continued the Spanish theologian, after listening to such things, I didn't return to these assemblies. They proposed that I should visit another, but it was just as scandalous.»
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Court officials told him that he had three opportunities to renounce his faith and embrace Islam. The last of the three court sessions, on September 28, ended with Nadarkhani refusing for the third time to recant. A Supreme Court ruling in June had overturned an earlier death sentence against Nadarkhani for apostasy, and ordered the lower court to conduct additional investigations to determine whether Nadarkhani was willing to renounce his Christian faith to avoid execution.
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Nadarkhani’s lawyer told Human Rights Watch that his client converted to Christianity at the age of 19, and that prior to that he did not consider himself a Muslim or an adherent of any religion.»
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А вы говорите Джордано Бруно или там Юлиан Отступник - древняя история. Ничего не древняя. Айфоны беспомощны и ядерная энергия пособничает муллам. Суверенная демократия же.
Интересно, как долго иранцы будут еще терпеть это мракобесие? Полагаю, это в основном вопрос экономического уровня населения: покуда прослойка очень бедных и очень тупых будет достаточно толстой, режимчег будет держаться. А потом с шумом рухнет. Так что будущее все-таки за айфоном ;-/
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Ibn Warraq (псевдоним) : Why I am not a Muslim (пдф)
Книга весьма гневная и открывается она эпиграфом из Эрнеста Ренана:
«Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels in the Orient, that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him.»
К этому можно прибавить цитату из другого религиозного мыслителя:
«The intellectual - and thereby the rational - foundation of Islam results in the average Muslim having a curious tendency to believe that non-Muslims either know that Islam is the truth and reject it out of pure obstinacy, or else are simply ignorant of it and can be converted by elementary explanations; that anyone should be able to oppose Islam with a good conscience quite exceeds the Muslim's powers of imagination, precisely because Islam coincides in his mind with the irresistible logic of things.»
И чтоб никому обидно не было:
«[Renan] tells of an account by a Spanish theologian who witnessed two sessions conducted by Muslim theologians (mutakallimun) in Baghdad during the Abbasid era:
The first session, which I attended, there were not only Muslims of all sorts, orthodox and heterodox, but also religious deviants, Zoroastrian (guèbres), materialists, atheists, Jews, Christians; in short, there were unbelievers/skeptics (incrédules) of all kinds. Each sect had its own leader, entrusted with the task of defending the opinions they professed ... one of these unbelievers would address the gathering: "we are gathered here to reason, he would say. You all know the rules. You Muslims shall not invoke arguments from your Book [i.e., the Qur'an] or based on the authority of your prophet, because we believe in neither. Each one should limit his arguments to reason." Everyone applauded. — You understand, continued the Spanish theologian, after listening to such things, I didn't return to these assemblies. They proposed that I should visit another, but it was just as scandalous.»
