Ретрограды и обскуранты
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a_kleberВ сотый раз напомню - США на редкость ретроградная страна. Такой вот пассаж в спиче Обамы, это прям небывалый прорыв и ломка традиций:
«We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus - and non-believers.»
«We will restore science to its rightful place...»
Это в 2009 такую хуйню приходится с понтом толкать с самой высокой трибуны. Очень тупая страна, не надо недооценивать всю глубину тупости, т.ск. Особенно когда кому-то хочется описацца от восторга по поводу Америки, вот в этот момент как раз и вспомнить: "а ведь очень тупая страна".
И неслабо экспортирует эту тупость по всему миру, между прочим.
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2009
«Sir David Attenborough receives hate mail from viewers because he does not credit God in his nature programmes, he has disclosed.
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Sir David said he was raised in a religion-free household and it had "never really occurred to me to believe in God... I do remember looking at my headmaster delivering a sermon, a classicist, extremely clever - and thinking, 'He can't really believe all that, can he? How incredible!'"
He told of his exasperation when people ask: 'What is a mosquito for? They're no good for anything!' Sir David said he despaired of "that basic notion that the world is our oyster, that we have dominion over all things, that they are here for us". Asked where the notion came from, he replied: "The Bible, of course. Genesis, chapter one."
In an interview with the Radio Times, Sir David, 82, attacked the "terrible, terrible" fact that some British state schools are allowed to teach children that creationism and evolution have equal merit. "It's like saying that two and two equals four but, if you wish it, it could also be five. This is one of the errors. Evolution is not a theory. It is a fact, every bit as much as the historical fact that William the Conqueror landed in 1066. Indeed, more so, because all we have to tell us about William are a few bits of paper here or there - not very much at all. For evolution we have much more evidence: palaeontology, embryology, biology, geology.
"Darwin revolutionised the way we see the world fundamentally, but his basic proposition is still not taken on board by a lot of people." Sir David acknowledged, however, that "it would be a very bold scientist, and certainly not me, who believes it's the be all and end all".»
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2006
«Dozens of schools are using creationist teaching materials condemned by the government as "not appropriate to support the science curriculum", the Guardian has learned.
The packs promote the creationist alternative to Darwinian evolution called intelligent design and the group behind them said 59 schools are using the information as "a useful classroom resource".
A teacher at one of the schools said it intended to use the DVDs to present intelligent design as an alternative to Darwinism. Nick Cowan, head of chemistry at Bluecoat school, in Liverpool, said: "Just because it takes a negative look at Darwinism doesn't mean it is not science. I think to critique Darwinism is quite appropriate."
But the government has made it clear that "neither intelligent design nor creationism are recognised scientific theories". The chairman of the parliamentary science and technology select committee, the Lib Dem MP Phil Willis, said he was horrified that the packs were being used in schools.»
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Кстате, чего я лично думаю про Дарвина и Бога - Бог, конечно, главнее :) Но об этом полезно напоминать в философском, а не научном контексте.
«We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus - and non-believers.»
«We will restore science to its rightful place...»
Это в 2009 такую хуйню приходится с понтом толкать с самой высокой трибуны. Очень тупая страна, не надо недооценивать всю глубину тупости, т.ск. Особенно когда кому-то хочется описацца от восторга по поводу Америки, вот в этот момент как раз и вспомнить: "а ведь очень тупая страна".
И неслабо экспортирует эту тупость по всему миру, между прочим.
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2009
«Sir David Attenborough receives hate mail from viewers because he does not credit God in his nature programmes, he has disclosed.
....
Sir David said he was raised in a religion-free household and it had "never really occurred to me to believe in God... I do remember looking at my headmaster delivering a sermon, a classicist, extremely clever - and thinking, 'He can't really believe all that, can he? How incredible!'"
He told of his exasperation when people ask: 'What is a mosquito for? They're no good for anything!' Sir David said he despaired of "that basic notion that the world is our oyster, that we have dominion over all things, that they are here for us". Asked where the notion came from, he replied: "The Bible, of course. Genesis, chapter one."
In an interview with the Radio Times, Sir David, 82, attacked the "terrible, terrible" fact that some British state schools are allowed to teach children that creationism and evolution have equal merit. "It's like saying that two and two equals four but, if you wish it, it could also be five. This is one of the errors. Evolution is not a theory. It is a fact, every bit as much as the historical fact that William the Conqueror landed in 1066. Indeed, more so, because all we have to tell us about William are a few bits of paper here or there - not very much at all. For evolution we have much more evidence: palaeontology, embryology, biology, geology.
"Darwin revolutionised the way we see the world fundamentally, but his basic proposition is still not taken on board by a lot of people." Sir David acknowledged, however, that "it would be a very bold scientist, and certainly not me, who believes it's the be all and end all".»
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2006
«Dozens of schools are using creationist teaching materials condemned by the government as "not appropriate to support the science curriculum", the Guardian has learned.
The packs promote the creationist alternative to Darwinian evolution called intelligent design and the group behind them said 59 schools are using the information as "a useful classroom resource".
A teacher at one of the schools said it intended to use the DVDs to present intelligent design as an alternative to Darwinism. Nick Cowan, head of chemistry at Bluecoat school, in Liverpool, said: "Just because it takes a negative look at Darwinism doesn't mean it is not science. I think to critique Darwinism is quite appropriate."
But the government has made it clear that "neither intelligent design nor creationism are recognised scientific theories". The chairman of the parliamentary science and technology select committee, the Lib Dem MP Phil Willis, said he was horrified that the packs were being used in schools.»
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Кстате, чего я лично думаю про Дарвина и Бога - Бог, конечно, главнее :) Но об этом полезно напоминать в философском, а не научном контексте.
