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a_kleberЕще одна информативная статья, об исламистком элементе в НПС:
«IF ANYONE could be considered the spiritual guide of the Libyan revolution, it is Sheikh Ali Salabi. For the last six months the lightly bearded cleric has travelled between Libya and his base in Qatar, visiting rebel fighters on the front line; taking soundings from those who inhabit the country’s Islamist spectrum; contributing to discussions that resulted in the National Transitional Council’s (NTC) draft constitution; and, quietly, and with NTC approval, attempting to negotiate, through intermediaries, the departure of the Gadafy family from Libya with Muammar Gadafy’s son Saif-ul-Islam.
Arguably Libya’s most prominent religious scholar, Salabi has impeccable credentials within the country’s Islamist firmament. After spending much of the 1980s jailed, along with other dissidents, in Tripoli’s notorious Abu Salim prison, Salabi went into exile, first in Saudi Arabia, then Sudan, Yemen and finally Qatar, where he has been a close associate of the Muslim Brotherhood-linked cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi. In 2005, Saif-ul-Islam, mindful of Salabi’s influence, persuaded him to collaborate on a rehabilitation programme for members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a militant organisation that once posed the greatest threat to Gadafy.
Salabi, who is often labelled a Muslim Brotherhood cleric, describes himself as “an independent, nationalist-minded scholar” and not part of any organisation. The regime, he says, had tried to paint him as a supporter of the LIFG, but he insists he always abhorred its violence.
The softly spoken cleric, one of whose brothers is the imam at a mosque in Galway [Ирландия], and another, named Ismail, commander of a rebel brigade in eastern Libya, has thought long and hard about his vision for Libya’s future. He mentions Turkey under the ruling AKP party and Malaysia as examples to follow.
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Belhaj’s appointment raised eyebrows in some quarters, but Salabi argues that any fears are misplaced. “People shouldn’t be worried. The same thoughts I carry, he carries. He has been my friend for 25 years.
“Abdelhakim Belhaj and the others who were in the LIFG now believe in moderation, in democracy and the peaceful exchange of power. After the dialogues that began in 2005, they reached the conclusion that democracy is a beautiful thing and it actually fits with the values of the Koran.”
Salabi says he and Belhaj have spent much time in recent months consulting rebel fighters on the front line. “Many, if not most, of these men are actually Islamists by background. Just as they have been a fundamental part of the revolution, they will play a fundamental part in the building of the new Libya. (...)»
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Сладкоречив, ничего не скажешь. Не думаю, что стоит верить каждому слову (например, как минимум спорно и бахвально звучит ненавязчивое утверждение, что большинство бойцов - исламисты,особенно на фоне их контр с бригадами "комитета 17 февраля").
Интересно было бы узнать, что он говорит в интервью "своим". В любом случае, время покажет - что тут правда, а что елей для западных ушей.
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UPD. А вот как раз и соответствующая инфа поперла. Мулла Салаби наклеветал альджазире на министра финансов НПС (американский профессор, вернувшийся в апрелe) Али Тархуни. Инфа с твиттера и в основном от последователей комитета 17 февраля:
2011feb17
Salaby's talk with Aljazera. Not good, not good at all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1nXQEF3aU
SecularLibya
#Salabi uneducated Islamist MB sheikh attackng PhD in Economics Prof. Ali Tarhouni #3 in NTC for "not understanding oil"!
OnlyOneLibya
Mr. Ali Salabi may have committed political suicide today, shown his true intentions. This revolution is full of grace, exposes all to see.
EndTyranny101
After this speech by MAJ we will get Ali Salabi & his brothers calling for him to step down, like they have been calling for Mahmood Jibril.
Dernaweeya
lots of anit-Salabi facebook pages emerging...they need to re-access themselves.
(неделю назад брат этого клерика, полевой командир, уже призвал распустить к чертям весь НПС.)
«IF ANYONE could be considered the spiritual guide of the Libyan revolution, it is Sheikh Ali Salabi. For the last six months the lightly bearded cleric has travelled between Libya and his base in Qatar, visiting rebel fighters on the front line; taking soundings from those who inhabit the country’s Islamist spectrum; contributing to discussions that resulted in the National Transitional Council’s (NTC) draft constitution; and, quietly, and with NTC approval, attempting to negotiate, through intermediaries, the departure of the Gadafy family from Libya with Muammar Gadafy’s son Saif-ul-Islam.
Arguably Libya’s most prominent religious scholar, Salabi has impeccable credentials within the country’s Islamist firmament. After spending much of the 1980s jailed, along with other dissidents, in Tripoli’s notorious Abu Salim prison, Salabi went into exile, first in Saudi Arabia, then Sudan, Yemen and finally Qatar, where he has been a close associate of the Muslim Brotherhood-linked cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi. In 2005, Saif-ul-Islam, mindful of Salabi’s influence, persuaded him to collaborate on a rehabilitation programme for members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a militant organisation that once posed the greatest threat to Gadafy.
Salabi, who is often labelled a Muslim Brotherhood cleric, describes himself as “an independent, nationalist-minded scholar” and not part of any organisation. The regime, he says, had tried to paint him as a supporter of the LIFG, but he insists he always abhorred its violence.
The softly spoken cleric, one of whose brothers is the imam at a mosque in Galway [Ирландия], and another, named Ismail, commander of a rebel brigade in eastern Libya, has thought long and hard about his vision for Libya’s future. He mentions Turkey under the ruling AKP party and Malaysia as examples to follow.
(...)
Belhaj’s appointment raised eyebrows in some quarters, but Salabi argues that any fears are misplaced. “People shouldn’t be worried. The same thoughts I carry, he carries. He has been my friend for 25 years.
“Abdelhakim Belhaj and the others who were in the LIFG now believe in moderation, in democracy and the peaceful exchange of power. After the dialogues that began in 2005, they reached the conclusion that democracy is a beautiful thing and it actually fits with the values of the Koran.”
Salabi says he and Belhaj have spent much time in recent months consulting rebel fighters on the front line. “Many, if not most, of these men are actually Islamists by background. Just as they have been a fundamental part of the revolution, they will play a fundamental part in the building of the new Libya. (...)»
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Сладкоречив, ничего не скажешь. Не думаю, что стоит верить каждому слову (например, как минимум спорно и бахвально звучит ненавязчивое утверждение, что большинство бойцов - исламисты,
Интересно было бы узнать, что он говорит в интервью "своим". В любом случае, время покажет - что тут правда, а что елей для западных ушей.
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UPD. А вот как раз и соответствующая инфа поперла. Мулла Салаби наклеветал альджазире на министра финансов НПС (американский профессор, вернувшийся в апрелe) Али Тархуни. Инфа с твиттера и в основном от последователей комитета 17 февраля:
2011feb17
Salaby's talk with Aljazera. Not good, not good at all. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1nXQEF3aU
SecularLibya
#Salabi uneducated Islamist MB sheikh attackng PhD in Economics Prof. Ali Tarhouni #3 in NTC for "not understanding oil"!
OnlyOneLibya
Mr. Ali Salabi may have committed political suicide today, shown his true intentions. This revolution is full of grace, exposes all to see.
EndTyranny101
After this speech by MAJ we will get Ali Salabi & his brothers calling for him to step down, like they have been calling for Mahmood Jibril.
Dernaweeya
lots of anit-Salabi facebook pages emerging...they need to re-access themselves.
(неделю назад брат этого клерика, полевой командир, уже призвал распустить к чертям весь НПС.)
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Date: 2011-09-14 12:58 pm (UTC)Интересный у них "сухой вода" получается .
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Date: 2011-09-14 02:39 pm (UTC)http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/13/interim-libyan-leader-calls-unity
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Date: 2011-09-14 02:58 pm (UTC)...Кричали женщины "ура",
И в воздух
хиджабылифчики бросалиГрибоедов был провидцем.
"Каждая кухарка будет управлять Джамахирией..."(Владимир тоже прав ;)).
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Date: 2011-09-14 06:14 pm (UTC)http://a-kleber.livejournal.com/935230.html
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Date: 2011-09-17 11:16 pm (UTC)единственный надежный критерий - это проследить связи до сомали какого-нибудь, чтобы посмотреть на так называемые core values того или иного товарища
но это тоже невыполнимо
нефальсифицируемо -> болтовня.
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Date: 2011-09-18 01:53 pm (UTC)