Почему Сорос сворачивает свои программы
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a_kleberЯ тут наткнулась на сайт венгерского "архива открытого общества" и обнаружила, что там урезали все не-специфически венгерские гранты. На сайте фонда Сороса для России (и, возможно, не только для нее) больше нет общих програм развития высшего гуманитарного образования (вот почему в конце 2007 перестал функционировать портал http://www.auditorium.ru), ну и музей Сахарова тоже с того же 2007 года остался без подмоги. Наверное, есть еще какие-то признаки, но я пока вижу только эти.
Кто-то это все объясняет упадком интереса к России на западе, но как-то это не вяжется с тем фактом, что упадок интереса длится уже давно, а гранты начали резать только в прошлом году. И вот я натыкаюсь на интервью самого Сороса, который все же в первую очередь финансист, а уже потом филантроп и тд. И этот зубр и акула мировых финансов вещает зловещие вещи. Мне думается, в виду этой мрачной перспективы Сорос и стал сворачивать свою масштабную лавочку, ибо как птицы скрываются в лесу перед дождем, так и финансисты такого уровня уходят в глубокую оборону, доподлинно зная, что грядет ливень и пиздец:
«GEORGE SOROS: 'WE FACE THE MOST SERIOUS RECESSION OF OUR LIFETIME'
Last Updated: 12:53am BST 27/05/2008
George Soros, 'the man who broke the Bank of England', tells Edmund Conway of his fears for the economy
"This is a period of wealth destruction. The people who make money will be few and far between. There will be a lot more money lost than made." When George Soros - the phenomenally successful hedge fund manager - says this, you know something is wrong, very wrong. And indeed it is. The 77-year-old billionaire sinks back into the sofa in his Chelsea townhouse and exhales.
He has managed to make money almost consistently for over half a century - from his early days as one of the world's first major hedge fund traders to his involvement in Black Wednesday as the man who "broke the Bank of England", and in the latter years generating multi-billion-dollar annual profits throughout the 1990s. The conditions today are almost uniquely dismal, however.
"I think this is probably more serious than anything in our lifetime," he says. In short, his feeling is that the United States and Britain are facing a recession of a scale greater than the early-1990s, greater even than the 1970s.
...
Such apocalypticisms would be less worrying were it not that Soros was among the few prominent experts who warned of the dire consequences facing the American economy years ago, when the housing bubble was still inflating.
But even cottoning on to the big economic story early on hasn't meant guaranteed success. He returned from retirement last summer, and no sooner had he started trading than he pulled hundreds of millions of dollars of investment out of the US and the UK. It was enough to help him to a 32pc return last year. But amid the turbulence of 2008, he admits he is barely breaking even.
One of the problems is that leverage, the juice that has driven the hedge fund and finance trade in recent years, has all but dried up; the other is that the impending economic slump will be far-reaching and painful.
....
But as hedge funds and other speculators pile in to the current crude oil boom, the Hungarian-born investor instead focuses on the wider picture - maintaining his estimated $8.5bn (£4.3bn) fortune, much of which he spends on his philanthropic and political ventures - most notably his Open Society Institute, which has a particular focus on Eastern Europe. However, don't try to read any of his politics into his trades, he insists.
"As a hedge fund manager, I do not claim to be serving the public interest. I am in the business to make money," he says. "It's a difficult point for people to understand and there's a general attitude when they see people profiting to say that markets are immoral, or making money by speculating is immoral.
"It's really the job of the authorities to set the rules, and there are times when some people break the rules or engage in improper activities, like the sub-prime mortgages. The impact fell particularly heavily on black and Hispanic minorities.
"It is a scandal, and I think you can blame [former Federal Reserve chairman Alan] Greenspan for not regulating the mortgage industry. But that's very different from speculating in government bonds or financial instruments, and that's a difficult point to get across, but I feel very strongly.
"Markets play a very useful role and they are amoral, not immoral."»
Или вот еще другое его интервью, тоже майское:
«Billionaire financier and philanthropist George Soros has been claiming for decades that Adam Smith was wrong—markets aren't rational and self-regulating, but flawed, bubble-prone and in need of tweaking by the authorities. Now he believes he's been proved right. In his forthcoming book, "The New Paradigm for Financial Markets," Soros connects the financial crisis to his own "theory of reflexivity," which explains bubbles. Coming off a record year (by one estimate, $2.9 billion in 2007), he spoke to NEWSWEEK's Rana Foroohar. Excerpts: .... (по-русски)»
Бывают-таки социалистически настроенные мульти-миллиардеры, как это ни странно. Которые понимают, что делать большие деньги и разорять маленьких людей - это не одно и то же.
И кстати еще раз прикручу сюда ссылки на программу Билла Мойерса по этой теме:
1. Mortgage mess
2. William Greider
3. Justice and the American Dream
Кто-то это все объясняет упадком интереса к России на западе, но как-то это не вяжется с тем фактом, что упадок интереса длится уже давно, а гранты начали резать только в прошлом году. И вот я натыкаюсь на интервью самого Сороса, который все же в первую очередь финансист, а уже потом филантроп и тд. И этот зубр и акула мировых финансов вещает зловещие вещи. Мне думается, в виду этой мрачной перспективы Сорос и стал сворачивать свою масштабную лавочку, ибо как птицы скрываются в лесу перед дождем, так и финансисты такого уровня уходят в глубокую оборону, доподлинно зная, что грядет ливень и пиздец:
«GEORGE SOROS: 'WE FACE THE MOST SERIOUS RECESSION OF OUR LIFETIME'
Last Updated: 12:53am BST 27/05/2008
George Soros, 'the man who broke the Bank of England', tells Edmund Conway of his fears for the economy
"This is a period of wealth destruction. The people who make money will be few and far between. There will be a lot more money lost than made." When George Soros - the phenomenally successful hedge fund manager - says this, you know something is wrong, very wrong. And indeed it is. The 77-year-old billionaire sinks back into the sofa in his Chelsea townhouse and exhales.
He has managed to make money almost consistently for over half a century - from his early days as one of the world's first major hedge fund traders to his involvement in Black Wednesday as the man who "broke the Bank of England", and in the latter years generating multi-billion-dollar annual profits throughout the 1990s. The conditions today are almost uniquely dismal, however.
"I think this is probably more serious than anything in our lifetime," he says. In short, his feeling is that the United States and Britain are facing a recession of a scale greater than the early-1990s, greater even than the 1970s.
...
Such apocalypticisms would be less worrying were it not that Soros was among the few prominent experts who warned of the dire consequences facing the American economy years ago, when the housing bubble was still inflating.
But even cottoning on to the big economic story early on hasn't meant guaranteed success. He returned from retirement last summer, and no sooner had he started trading than he pulled hundreds of millions of dollars of investment out of the US and the UK. It was enough to help him to a 32pc return last year. But amid the turbulence of 2008, he admits he is barely breaking even.
One of the problems is that leverage, the juice that has driven the hedge fund and finance trade in recent years, has all but dried up; the other is that the impending economic slump will be far-reaching and painful.
....
But as hedge funds and other speculators pile in to the current crude oil boom, the Hungarian-born investor instead focuses on the wider picture - maintaining his estimated $8.5bn (£4.3bn) fortune, much of which he spends on his philanthropic and political ventures - most notably his Open Society Institute, which has a particular focus on Eastern Europe. However, don't try to read any of his politics into his trades, he insists.
"As a hedge fund manager, I do not claim to be serving the public interest. I am in the business to make money," he says. "It's a difficult point for people to understand and there's a general attitude when they see people profiting to say that markets are immoral, or making money by speculating is immoral.
"It's really the job of the authorities to set the rules, and there are times when some people break the rules or engage in improper activities, like the sub-prime mortgages. The impact fell particularly heavily on black and Hispanic minorities.
"It is a scandal, and I think you can blame [former Federal Reserve chairman Alan] Greenspan for not regulating the mortgage industry. But that's very different from speculating in government bonds or financial instruments, and that's a difficult point to get across, but I feel very strongly.
"Markets play a very useful role and they are amoral, not immoral."»
Или вот еще другое его интервью, тоже майское:
«Billionaire financier and philanthropist George Soros has been claiming for decades that Adam Smith was wrong—markets aren't rational and self-regulating, but flawed, bubble-prone and in need of tweaking by the authorities. Now he believes he's been proved right. In his forthcoming book, "The New Paradigm for Financial Markets," Soros connects the financial crisis to his own "theory of reflexivity," which explains bubbles. Coming off a record year (by one estimate, $2.9 billion in 2007), he spoke to NEWSWEEK's Rana Foroohar. Excerpts: .... (по-русски)»
Бывают-таки социалистически настроенные мульти-миллиардеры, как это ни странно. Которые понимают, что делать большие деньги и разорять маленьких людей - это не одно и то же.
И кстати еще раз прикручу сюда ссылки на программу Билла Мойерса по этой теме:
1. Mortgage mess
2. William Greider
3. Justice and the American Dream
