Судьба скифского золота Крыма, которое находится на выставке в музее Амстердама с начала февраля и которое оказалось заложником политической ситуации, сложившейся после присоединения полуострова к России, так и не прояснилась. Срок экспонирования выставки истекает 31 августа, а вопрос «куда возвращать предметы искусства», которые оцениваются не менее чем в миллион евро, по-прежнему открыт. Украина настаивает на том, чтобы ценности были доставлены в Киев, так как они являются государственной собственностью Украины. В России считают, что экспонаты должны вернуться в Крым, иначе они де-факто будут считаться похищенными. В Голландии решение до сих пор не принято. Руководство амстердамского музея в замешательстве. Кому возвращать золото скифов: крымским музеям или киевским властям? У организаторов выставки есть обязательства и перед музеями, которые теперь находятся на российской территории, и перед Министерством культуры Украины.

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что-то это мне напоминает. что-то такое аналогичное было между РФ и швейцарией. выставка выехала и не вернулась. не могу вспомнить детали, но этой мой личный склероз - случай известный.

а когда подумаешь, что сейчас в плане музейно-археологическом делается в той же Сирии (когда градами стреляют по монументу на Саур-Могиле - это одно, все-таки историческая ценность там никакая; символическая - другое дело; монумент на данный момент разнесен в прах; а в Сирии херачат прямо по римской и средневековой архитектуре...), что уже давно делается в Ираке... Ливию все еще не причисляю к лику археологических великомученников, потому что там музейные районы пока чудом остаются вне эпицентров разгула боевиков.

в Сабрате сейчас:
В Ливии сейчас решается судьба страны. Либо это будет исламо-пиздец на манер Сомали и/или Саудовской Аравии, и так на долгие годы, либо светские силы возьмут верх и отстроят относительно нормальную страну, и даже без единоличного диктатора или военной хунты на 40 лет... чо-то не верится во все хорошее, но пока еще есть все-таки какой-то потенциал, не всех за эту пару лет по подворотням перерезали.

Только история регулярно показывается, что такого рода шанс на противостояние и победу дается только раз - и если проиграть, то с перебитым позвоночником условно говоря потом лежать лицом в землю ну просто очень долго. Это универсальное правило, какие-то самые базовые элементы социальной психологии или что-то такое.
екарный бабай! так это та самая "каэгха" в Ливии отличилась? ну и сюжеты...

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ООН: за время войны в Сирии погибли более 100 тысяч человек

безусловно. а в ливии - 50 тысяч. только в ливии эту пургу уже не повторяют даже самые заядлые революционеры. а в сирии пока хаос и "все сойдет во имя победы". источник цифр: лондонский орг-комитет оппозиции.

в ливии народ сильно приуныл, надо сказать. временное правительство занимается внутренними интрижками и ничего не делает по части усмирения беспредельничающих вооруженных банд. инфраструктура продолжает приходить в упадок. как было гавно так и осталось, плюс давняя коррупция сделалась совсем безудержной.
В последние дни Кадафи окружали в частности белые наемники из Южной Африки. Некоторые из них погибли в бомбежке конвоя под Сиртом. Про них пишут довольно странные вещи:

«Some of the South Africans captured by the Libyan rebels appear to have been treated with remarkable leniency. Captured regime mercenaries, the vast majority of them black sub-Saharan Africans, faced summary execution in the hands of revolutionaries. But some of the ones taken after the Sirte bombing were spirited away and even transported abroad for medical treatment.

Danie Odendaal, one of the fighters, claimed he was with Gaddafi when the convoy was attacked. He has told South African media that three groups of South Africans were flown in to Libya via Dubai and Cairo to help the Gaddafi family under a deal done with Nato.

The plan, he said, was initially to take Gaddafi to Niger. "We all believed they [certain Western countries] wanted him out of Libya. But then Nato attacked. It was a gruesome, gruesome orgy, I think we were sold out". The dictator suffered brutal abuse before being killed. "The poor thing screamed like a pig," he said. However, some rebels then helped the South Africans get away from the scene.

The Independent has learnt that Mr Odendaal, who was travelling on a Greek passport, was sent to Cairo to receive treatment for injuries he had received and has since moved to Western Europe.
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Revolutionary fighters present at the time of Gaddafi's capture spoke of seeing bodies of white mercenaries which later disappeared. Abdullah Hakim Husseini, of the Misrata brigade, recalled: "There were, I think, three or four bodies of foreigners. We were told not to touch them, they would not be going back to Misrata... Later I heard they were from Zimbabwe and South Africa."
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На юге у границы с Нигером. На этот раз от зверств удержались вроде бы.

16-17 августа в Триполи:
«One of my students, a doctor who lives in Gharian, called me in the evening. I asked him how he was and he said ‘Mrs. Khadija we are free! We are free!’ He was elated, his voice filled with utter joy. He said that he had been working non-stop for the past six days; he had not left the hospital at all. But he said all the hard work didn’t matter because they had freedom. ‘Please remember us in your prayers. Please pray that Tripoli will be free soon too.’ I implored him. I was so happy to hear his voice.
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The opposition is still working on taking over Zawia. Kadafy’s forces have snipers on various building throughout the city. On Kadafy’s television channel the presenter explained that in Doha they have a complete 3D model of Bab Al Azizia and they are making American style movies of the opposition fighting there and taking it over. According to the presenter of this show they plan to use these videos on the foreign news channels to try to make the world believe that the opposition is winning. ‘Don’t pay any attention to this if you see one of these videos on the news channels because it is all a lie.’ He says. Do they really think people are going to believe such ridiculous nonsense?
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Середина августа в Триполи:

«Soon we could hear loud explosions coming from the city that turned out to be fireworks in the Green Square. This usually signifies that Kadafy will make an address. Where is he? He hasn’t been seen in public since May.

Kadafy (was it really him?) made a short audio address calling for his supporters to rally together to fight NATO and the traitors. Later on one of Kadafy’s television channels the presenter of one show threatened that Kadafy would not give up and no one would be left in Libya if anything happened to him, even the mountains would not be left standing. There wouldn’t even be a rock to sit on. Annihilation? Does Libya have weapons of mass destruction? I shuddered at the thought. My husband truly believes that it’s a possibility and that megalomaniac Kadafy would want to go out with a bang, taking us all with him.

NATO continued their bombing of the nearby army camp but the explosions were not as loud as before – or maybe we are just getting used to it. It’s strange what you can get used to. We heard gunfire coming from the main road and friends who lived in different parts of Tripoli called to say there was fighting in some areas of the city. People were excited by the recent conquests made by the opposition. Everyone wants to see an end to the conflict.

I concluded the night with a headache so I went to bed early but was woken periodically throughout the night by nearby explosions and the constant drone of fighter jets.
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Август в пригороде Триполи:

«He informed us that NATO had dropped leaflets on the area that had been bombed near us in Fornaj on Saturday (the area we passed through earlier in the day). NATO was planning to return to bomb there again and asked that people evacuate the area. He also told us the price of cooking gas on the black market was now 80 dinars for a cylinder. Soon it was time to leave.
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We ate outside in the garden; we still had no power. After we ate we sat on the terrace to catch the breeze. NATO’s planes soon began to fly back and forth overhead. I went inside the house to make sure all the windows were open so that when they started bombing the pressure wouldn’t break the glass. We decided to move mattresses and cushions outside as it seemed safer outdoors than in the house. Even though we were not in the evacuation zone we were worried that the exploding rockets might hit the house. The planes were getting louder and louder, we expected them to bomb at any moment.

Finally at about midnight the bombardment began. Massive explosions shook the earth. I must have been screaming because my husband and kids kept asking me to stop. But I didn’t think I was screaming. The sky was orange with bright white flashes of light, the explosions constant. We could see debris and rockets flying through the air. NATO returned repeatedly during the night to bomb the munitions dump and the ensuing explosions would send more rockets and ammunition flying through the air. We were relieved to be upwind as we watched the smoke clouds drift away from us toward Tripoli.

My husband called his family to see if they were all right. Their house was outside the evacuation zone and they weren’t hit by any rockets or falling debris, but explosions had blown out some of their windows and damaged the garage doors. The pressure of the blasts had blown the doors open. My brothers-in-law piled the women and children into their cars and took them to my sister-in-law’s house in a safer area. Thank God no one had been hurt.

The terrifying explosions continued on through the night and could still be heard the next afternoon. It was frightening. I had screamed, I had cried, I had trembled with fear. I finally fell asleep around seven o’clock in the morning.
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Точнее - говномедиа:

«On today’s news: The opposition is still mourning Abdel Fateh Yunis but their oil minister is saying Yunis was killed by his own soldiers. The story of his death is still not clear – too many conflicting reports. Later in the day the opposition stated that they had issued an arrest warrant for Yunis not long before he was assassinated. The opposition is still lauding their takeover of border towns near Tunisia, they’ve found evidence documenting that Kadafy’s soldiers were using drugs – copious amounts of needles strewn about in areas where the soldiers had been staying. Meanwhile Kadafy’s forces are claiming that they’ve caused heavy casualties for the rebels – at least 190 opposition fighters killed since Wednesday. Despite NATO’s early morning bombardment of communications and television satellites Kadafy’s TV channels are still up and running.

Part of me wants to see the end of Kadafy’s TV network, but on the other hand it is certainly hilarious and entertaining to watch. Broadcasters blaspheme and lie left and right in such a ridiculously obvious way. The shows are full of blatant propaganda, and wild threats, and scare tactics. The studios’ sets are garish and ugly and the presenters are clearly unprofessional, as though they gave the job to anyone that wanted it – not to anyone with any credentials as journalists. One presenter is frequently seen waving a machine gun during his show while another TV host practices black magic. They televise taped speeches by Kadafy’s son Saif Al-Islam, who speaks in the same meandering style as his father, complete with his followers chanting slogans for a minute or so every other sentence. We watch just to see what they will come up with next. It’s hard to believe that anyone would take these channels seriously. But then again, Libya is full of ignorant, uneducated people who have been swallowing Kadafy’s codswallop for over four decades.
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Признаки все знакомые:

«Cheese... the choices are limited and we have our favourites but they aren't available anymore. My husband came home with some substitutes. One kind was made in Libya: 'Oh what's this one like?' I said as I opened the box. A strong odor not unlike manure wafted out. 'Ewe!' I decided to see if the cat would eat it, but no, the cat sniffed the cheese and turned up his nose. Maybe we can feed it to the dogs... or maybe not. What are the symptoms for cheese withdrawal? I think we are having them, whatever they are.

One of the things that I could never understand was how awful Libyan-made products usually are. Why do Libyans insist on making substandard products? Why do they cheat each other? Libyan made juice - horrible (I've seen reports on the internet of insects and e-coli-laden dirt in the cartons)... milk that smells like dirty socks... soap and cleaning products that don't clean... cookies that taste like cardboard (and are crushed and broken in the package)... and now cheese that smells like manure... shit... uuugh.

What is even stranger is that this type of cheese didn't exist before the war. When did they open the factory?
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I made a lovely pasta sauce that was unfortunately ruined by the poor quality Libyan-made pasta that my husband brought home the day before. The pasta fell apart in little bits when I cooked it. We ate it anyway, but the remaining pasta we’ll use to feed our dogs. It makes me so sad to see how Libyans think nothing at all of cheating each other – making and selling poor quality products is a common occurrence here. I’ll have to remind my husband to buy Tunisian-made pasta in the future.
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«I know what living in a water shortage is all about. During the 1990's we had limited water supplies in Tripoli. Our water would turn on for about 45 minutes most afternoons; brackish, salty and undrinkable but we used it to wash ourselves and for cleaning. As soon as the water came on I would begin collecting it in all sorts of containers. Bathing was a well-planned event: ten litres was stored for each adult, five litres for each child. The water was heated and poured into a bucket. A small plastic pitcher was used to pour the water over your body while you stood in a washtub. Not one drop of water was wasted. The bath water that was collected in the washtub was used to flush the toilets. On the days when the water didn't come on I would walk to the mosque down the road and fill up a 20 litre container.

After more than a year of this my husband had a well dug in our garden. This helped but didn't completely solve the problem because the underground water table in Tripoli is quite low and saline, so our water was salty and the well would run dry from time to time. When I look back on those days I wonder why I stayed here... sigh... and here I sit contemplating going through it all over again.

Finally Kadafy's project 'The Great Man-Made River' reached the point in which Tripoli could be supplied with water. But the water is only expected to last at most fifty years. In my opinion, the money would have been better spent on building desalinization plants along Libya's long Mediterranean coastline. At any rate, this doesn't help us as we are living in an area that is not supplied with water. We get our water from a well that we had put in when we began building our house. The people in the area all rely on wells or have tank trucks of water delivered to their homes.
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Записки из пригорода Триполи, июнь:

«On the way home we stopped along the road where people are selling vegetables, fruit, eggs and live chickens. I stayed in the car while my husband got out to make the purchases. While I was waiting, a car pulled up alongside me. The driver opened his door and proceeded to masturbate in front of me. 'Oh lovely!' I thought 'I've got entertainment while I wait'. I pretended that I didn't see what was happening.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time such a thing has happened to me. Such behavior is not uncommon in Libya. Incidents such as this are seldom reported because women are afraid to report such crimes. It's really sickening.
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«For some reason, the majority of Libyan women when faced with danger, pain, or any situation they find difficult, jump around screaming "Wook! Wook! Wook alayah wook!" . I never could figure it out. What good does it do to get hysterical? I behave just the oposite. Whenever I'm faced with a serious problem I become very quiet while I calmly assess the situation.»


«Lawless, Libya has become lawless. No one pays the least attention to traffic laws in Libya as a rule, but now it's worse than ever. The red light means nothing - most people slow down a bit and then continue on through the intersection. They know that no one will stop them. Along our way today we passed two men fighting on the side of the road with knives. 'Oh my God! Look at those men! A knife fight!' I exclaimed. As my husband slowed the car down to look I said 'No! Don't stop! Keep going! Keep going!' he continued on. And everyone else driving on the road continued on too. No one is held accountable for their actions. Everyone is out for themselves.»


«It was sunny and hot so I had all the car's windows rolled down which made me feel vulnerable. But there is no way to sit with the car on and the air conditioner running because my gas tank is nearly empty. Young guys with green flags on their fancy cars drove up and down in front of the entrance to the university, political songs blasting from their car stereos - they obviously have no problems getting gasoline.»


«Last night we had a 3:00 AM air raid. The blast blew us about a foot off the bed. I don't know what they were targeting. 'Jeeeesssuus! What the heck was that?' I exclaimed. My husband replied 'Just stay in bed. It doesn't matter.' Within a few minutes we fell back to sleep.»
Ахрененная совершенно зарисовка из майских дней в пригороде Триполи. Дикая нехватка бензина:

«Thursday, May 12th, 2011

A friend of mine called me on Wednesday to say she needed to fill her car with gas and wanted to know if I needed gas too. She suggested we could both go at the same time the next morning. There would be safety in numbers and having someone to talk to would be a way to help pass the time. I said it sounded like a good plan. So we met each other along the way and got in line at six o'clock in the morning at a gas station that had been designated 'for women only'.
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At dusk my friend's husband came back, dropping off his youngest brother to stay with us and act as a chaperone and protector. Shortly after that my husband dropped off my son Yusef to do chaperone duties too. So now including my student, we had three protectors.

The tanker truck delivered gasoline a little after sunset. It took about an hour for the gas to be unloaded and the lines of cars started moving at about 9:00pm. All day, since the break of dawn, hundreds of women had been waiting in their cars to fill gas. Many had left their children at home, or taken the day off work, taken time away from teaching or studying. Some were young, some old, some pregnant. All had come to this particular gas station that was designated for women so that they could have a safe way to fill their cars' gas tanks.

As soon the gas station attendants started pumping gas, gangs of men and boys started to try to push their cars into the lines, sneaking in from side roads. Men dressed in army uniforms and carrying Kalashnikovs swaggered to and fro threatening to shoot off the legs of anyone who got out of their car. To reinforce their threats, they shot their guns off into the night sky. Anytime one of the cars driven by the males tried to cut in line the women would all start to honk their horns. The 'soldiers' threatened to shoot the cars of anyone honking.

Men were shouting, women were defending their places, horns were blaring and machine guns were shooting. One of the soldiers standing next to my car told a colleague 'Cover for me for a few minutes. I gotta go smoke some weed'. The air was full of the smell of alcohol and hashish. The boys and men in the cars and the 'soldiers' were inebriated, armed and dangerous. Read more... )
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«Oil traders said the Libyans had refused all invitations to lunch or dinner and kept to a tight schedule.

"Before, everything was done under the table and with bribes. Now I haven't heard anything about bribes and tenders are being used to buy and sell," one said.

"Even those that were corrupt before would not think of doing anything wrong now," the Libyan delegate said.
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Traders also expected the reformed NOC to usher in a new era of efficiency, after deals with its eastern subsidiary Agoco, which managed sales and purchases during the war, had been conducted via email.

Previously, oil firms would have been required to send representatives to Libya and reach agreements in person.
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Учитывая, что нефтяным портфелем сейчас заведует "американец" Али Тархуни - это не удивительно. А вот так ли все здорово будет и дальше, фиг знает. Скажем, в области выдачи виз на въезд/выезд Ливия опять занялась анальным ограждением, как будто режим и не менялся. Просто потому что "так привыкли".

Кстати же сюда, пару слов о новом переходном премьер-министре, сменившем Джибрила:

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